Given that its not about the money?
Hey Attila,
Great Idea!!, And while your at it, maybe you can post on the Bassmaina forum and ask their members,
Just wondering and have a few questions...
It is pretty widely known that Andy has some of the lowest boat fields on the circuit at about 55 boats for the 1 days and 20 boats for the 2 days. So given that it’s not about the money or the fields, what brings all of you anglers back here year after year to fish the series?
Then go to the CFT forum and ask their members…
Just wondering and have a few questions...
It is pretty widely known that Dan has some of the highest percentage payouts on the circuit, but can’t fill his fields. Given that it’s not about the money, what brings all of you anglers back here year after year to fish the series?
Just curious..
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Just a couple of question\'s
Attila: Just curious as to why you would like to know? And why you change the question after they clearly have been answered! However, if you really need to know soooo badly here they are; 1) cost of tournament is affordable, 2) the competition level is equal to the top of any other tournament series, 3) your statement regarding the money is simply ridiculous, because if you were to win one tournament based on a full field than you have covered your cost for the year for that series, 4) Ted is a very honourable man who genuinely cares about the anglers and what they would like to see in the future without the bulls--t. Further Ted has never told anyone not to cash a cheque and has never bounced a cheque! Can you say that about every other series? I personally want to fish where there is great anglers to compete against. I don't want to tell people I won a tournament however, there was only twenty to fifty boats. Since you've stated yourself that this is not an argument, I'm curious what series do you fish?
Can`t stay away from this post
We had a very similar post not long ago that dealt with paybacks. I also have fished all three series and this was my first year fishing Topbass. The reason, the Reelfish`n series folded and Bassmania series conflicted with the CFT`s. So Topbass filled the gap. Not long after signing up I realized what Bill has mentioned on this post (the reason for the other post). What I was hoping is that the anglers would bind together to possible change these payouts for the better of us anglers, instead we jumped on the back of each series we liked and banged heads against each other. Each series has great camaraderie great anglers, great people. The CFT crew helped me this year with trailer problems at the start of the year and boat problems at the end of the year. Bassmania I have to agree with another post Vita is one of the hardest working persons in the industry and her and Andy are great people. I got to know Ted this year and all is good.
All that being said, we come to paybacks and exposure for the anglers.
CFT-each of its different series pay back over 100% and each of its events has television exposure not to mention media exposure.
Bassmania 70% to 80% paybacks limited exposure/fields.
TopBass 55% to 70 % paybacks limited exposure/ full fields.
We as anglers put a lot into this sport both monetary and time. Some of us put a lot of time into finding sponsorship to help us with monetary commitments. For these sponsors they require both our time and exposure to media.
Looking at these three series its a no brainier to distinguish which one will help us with both. If we happen to do well in tournament we get paid for it, possible a shot at a big prize as well boat, motor and trailer (Classic). Also media attention for those sponsors.
If some of the other series organizers could do the same we all win as competitive anglers.
The better for all of us as anglers because we get what we want from all the different series. We as competitive anglers have to get together and inform the series organizers what we would like. Almost guys and girls, like our own players union.
When Ted had a meeting prior to the Rice Lake Classic and asked us what we would like to see changed no one stood up and said how about higher % paybacks and sponsorship prizes. Ted did mention that he has a hard time with obtaining sponsors. We as anglers have to work together jump on our own team and demand a great product from all three series. Banging heads is just not going to do it for us. Were going about it the wrong way.
So how about it, Higher paybacks say 100%, and more media coverage for all three series
Bruce do you want to Start the Competitive Anglers Association.
engage brain before putting mouth in gear
Dear Mr.Madison
This did start out as a question and a genuine question and it was answered in it's entirety, and was happy to offer my "opinion" and facts. Now my name is not Ted Wiehler or (Ted Wieler) but Tim Wiehler. Next you have made a statement about boys getting our facts straight before offering opinions or facts, I assumed that after you went through taking the time to calculate monies received by Ted to fish his tournament that you would have been some what accurate, at assuming the cost of running a tournament series as stated by Larry and others. I too have fished all three series and have enjoyed all of my time on the water at each one of them. How ever you have to concider that not every one has the time nor the income to fish some series or more than one series. That being said we are all doing what we love to do, and that is "fish competitively", doesn't matter where you do it as long as you enjoy it. It's times like this that makes me believe that you and others all take sides or choose or are being forced to choose where your loyalty stands,(all tournament organizers are in this to make some money) when in fact if you asked every angler in every series, there would be an endless number of reasons for why they fish a series. when in fact it's a personal reason for every angler. And slamming one series over another takes us backwards not forward. If we put as much energy into helping to make any series or all series better the sky would be the limit. Instead we sit around talking politics amongst our self accomplishing nothing other then leaving a bad taste in everyones mouth. Tim.